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Crabapple writes: "Manning's WikiLeaks release made it impossible for America to ignore the moral horror of its foreign wars. That is true loyalty."

Bradley Manning leaving the courthouse. (photo: ABC News)
Bradley Manning leaving the courthouse. (photo: ABC News)



Bradley Manning: A Soldier for Truth on Trial

By Molly Crabapple, Guardian UK

05 June 13

merica loves its soldiers. They are heroes. They risk everything to protect our freedom. If they are killed, they have made the ultimate sacrifice.

In early 2010, when a soldier named Bradley Manning handed hundreds of thousands of diplomatic cables and Army reports over to WikiLeaks, he also risked everything to protect our freedom. But the American government is trying him for treason. And the American people, for the most part, don't care.

It was the largest release of classified information in US history. The documents revealed secret drone strikes, abusive conditions in Guant�namo and endemic corruption. They are credited in part for sparking the Arab Spring.

"You saw incredible things, awful things � things that belonged in the public domain, and not on some server stored in a dark room in Washington, DC � what would you do?" Manning asked a former hacker, Adrian Lamo, shortly after passing the information to WikiLeaks.

Manning is a 25-year-old gay kid from Oklahoma, ferociously smart, computer-addicted and psychologically fraught. He probably should never have been sent to war. During basic training, he was injured, and tormented as a "runt" and a "faggot". His superiors wrote that he could be "a risk to himself and possibly others". But the US army desperately needed intelligence analysts with computer skills, so in October 2009, at the age of 21, Manning was shipped to Iraq.

As an analyst, Manning had access to massive caches of information, from diplomatic cables to video footage of military operations. In a forward operating base east of Baghdad, he scrutinized documents while surrounded by televisions live-streaming destruction. He saw Iraqis arrested for distributing "terrorist literature", when they were really circulating critiques of their government's financial corruption. He told his superior officer, who shrugged, "Get back to work."

There is an American myth that we do not "just follow orders". Most people do. Faced with innocent people locked in cages, Manning decided not to.

Manning downloaded cables, documents and videos that, in many cases, revealed brutal acts executed by the US military, and then passed them on to WikiLeaks. The first thing WikiLeaks released was helicopter cam footage it titled "Collateral Murder". It shows US pilots gunning down two Reuters employees, then killing an Iraqi Good Samaritan, who, with his children, had stopped to help the wounded. The pilots seem cheerful and trigger-happy. They joke about the sounds a tank makes rolling over a corpse.

Manning confessed his leak to Adrian Lamo after reading about the ex-hacker in�Wired. Lamo, pallid and twitchy, is a Judas straight out of Central Casting. He pumped Manning for information, claiming that their communications were protected because Lamo was both a journalist and a priest. Then, he turned Manning over to the FBI.

Manning is often called a traitor. But whom did he betray?

Travon Boykins, a first lieutenant in the US infantry, told me:

"Soldiers are clannish, for good and ill. You are a part of the circle until you are out of the circle. It keeps us alive. You are expected to watch each other, protect each other. The mission is first. The country and constitution are grand, too. But most guys, if asked which is the most important, they would say the men. That's the dude you drank with, the dude who is on mission with you, the guy you will kill for and die for. At the end of the day, Manning broke our trust. If you commit an act of betrayal, how can I be sure you have my back? Will you kill for me? Will you die for me?"

Karl Marlantes, a decorated Vietnam veteran and Rhodes scholar, said during an�interview with Bill Moyers:

"The feeling [among soldiers] is that it's�we, not�me. You're willing to sacrifice�me, both as a physical body, and as an individual, to make sure the�we of the unit gets through this.�We can't be killed. I can be killed."

Loyalty is life and death for soldiers. But like courage, it's a morally neutral virtue. Its morality depends on how you view the cause it serves. Like any whistleblower, Manning may have betrayed his institution, but he did so out of loyalty to humanity.

If we view the war in Iraq as a murderous failure, entered into with lies and kept going by a refusal to admit our wrongs, the soldiers' fidelity to their mission looks different. The loyal soldiers become gears in a terrible machine beyond their control. They carve out spaces of humanity and solidarity for each other, even as the machine leaves countries covered in blood.

In Manning, a soldier's loyalty collided with the anti-authoritarian ethos of a hacker. Manning refused to be a gear.

The government needs hackers. But while hackers are often hired�by the government, they are seldom�of the government. Their values are foreign. Like the Mamluk soldier-slaves who would one day take Egypt from their masters, hackers are threatening precisely because they are already inside the walls of power. They have to be kept in line.

Manning's case is just one of dozens where hackers or whistleblowers with access to critical information networks are threatened with decades in prison. From Aaron Swartz to Jeremy Hammond, those who use computers to subvert the actions of the powerful are seen as more dangerous than rapists and murderers.

A member of the armed forces, speaking to me on the condition of anonymity, said:

"The military operates at the behest of our civilian masters. Those masters have the power to change law and policy. Citizens have the power to call their representatives to account through the political process. The military must NEVER set policy or interpret policy. That is how you get military juntas. In order for the United States to function as a free and open society, the military MUST carry out policy just like a machine would. This is what Bradley Manning failed to understand."

I asked him what Manning should have done. He told me that Manning should have brought his complaints up the chain of command. If that hadn't worked, he should have applied to leave the military, and then submitted freedom of information requests. The process requires an essential faith in the system.

Manning was arrested in May 2010 and held in solitary confinement for the next nine months. Guards stripped him naked each night, took his glasses, woke him every hour and allowed him 20 minutes a day to walk shackled in figure-eights. Solitary breaks minds. Shane Bauer, a hiker who spent 26 months in solitary confinement in Iran, wrote, "I needed human contact so badly that I woke every morning hoping to be interrogated � I once yearned to be sat down in a padded, sound-proof room, blindfolded, and questioned, just so I could talk to somebody." Thanks to international pressure, Manning was finally transferred to a normal cell in April 2011. But he has spent three years in jail just awaiting trial � longer than the sentences given to most of the torturers at Abu Ghraib.

Manning's trial begins today, Monday. In a pre-trial hearing in January, he pled guilty to "misusing classified material", and explained his motivations for leaking the information. But he denied the capital charge of "aiding the enemy", for which he faces the possibility of life in prison.

Manning is accused of aiding the enemy because he posted the information to the internet, where al-Qaida could read it. That the information went to WikiLeaks was irrelevant. The prosecution said Manning would be just as guilty if he had leaked it to the�New York Times. You might start thinking that the enemy is the internet itself. Or, by extension, that the enemy is us.

Manning's pre-trial hearings have mostly been ignored by the media. The�Times�only started sending reporters after an�opinion piece�by its own public editor shamed them for their absence. CNN's Anderson Cooper has never visited Fort Meade.

Alexa O'Brien, an independent journalist who for the past two and a half years has provided the only public transcript of the hearings, said, "The mainstream media doesn't have much respect for Bradley Manning. There's a totem pole of influence. Manning isn't someone they're trying to win something from." O'Brien was threatened with arrest for being "disruptive" in the course of covering the hearings.

"I believe that if the general public � had access to the information � this could spark a domestic debate as to the role of the military and foreign policy in general," Manning testified in court. We now have access to that information, but it hasn't sparked a widespread debate.

America's indifference to Manning shows how morally lazy we have become. Manning gave his freedom to reveal the truth about our wars. We didn't want to be bothered.

We look away from Manning's leaks for the same reason we have always looked away from veterans. We don't want to see the violence that underpins America. We don't want to see the teenager home from war with a colostomy bag and a scrambled brain. We don't want to see Bradley Manning. So we'll let him spend the rest of his life in a hole, until all but a few forget what he did to get there.

"I guess I'm too idealistic," Manning typed to Lamo, days before he was arrested. "I want people to see the truth, because without information, you cannot make informed decisions as a public. I will officially give up on the society we have if nothing happens."

Maybe the greatest lie that Manning exposed won't have been about what the United States was really up to in Iraq and Afghanistan. It will be the lie we told ourselves � the lie that we cared about the truth.

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+194 # fdawei 2012-09-10 09:28
Judge Hatch most definitely must be impeached. Her remarks and actions are reprehensible. What is it with the judiciary in Arizona, and more specifically, what is it with Arizona that breeds such undesirables?

Could Judge Hatch explain or develop and app to advise where woman should and should not be, with appropriate warnings linked to each location.

Why are the thugs (police) always exonerated from their despicable anti-social acts of violence against women, with the "judges" complicit in their crimes against women.
 
 
+2 # overanddone 2012-09-13 15:12
Agreed!!!A totally anti business decision, Jobs lost at least 90, from my company alone this year.She should be fired on that basis alone.
My firm was considering a move into the Phoenix marketplace. Our food and beverage chain has been growing steadily in southwestern states. We have great food and fairly priced drinks but even our chefs know that what really puts asses in the seats is WOMEN and guys who want to meet them. The whole gun deal had us skittish but this sealed the deal
 
 
0 # Tarlington 2012-09-19 16:09
This is outrageous! Shame on Judge Hatch.
 
 
+178 # Billy Bob 2012-09-10 09:47
So, let me get this straight: Unless a woman stays home all the time huddled under her blanket with a jan brewer approved weapon, she's being irresponsible?

The "judge" refered to bad things happening, as if it was just a weather event and no one bore any responsibility for it. She refered to it as if it's "just one of those things" and no one can do anything about it.

BUT, SHE'S A "JUDGE". SHE'S responsible to do something about it. By her own philosophy, there's no point in punishing anybody under any circumstances, because you can't avoid crime, so why try?

And, as the victim said, the totally unaccountable "cop" would have just done the same thing to someone else, and THAT person could have been given the stern lecture about leaving her home.

This is beyond insane.
 
 
+63 # Vermont Grandma 2012-09-10 13:27
One more reason not to visit Arizona AND be clear with everyone, including their congressional delegation and tourism bureau why folks will choose other destinations.

What does this say to tourists about the integrity of Arizona policemen and the willingness of Arizona judiciary to treat all criminals equally?

The fact that the perpetrator was a cop makes it even more necessary for their to be punishment - surely he knew what he was doing was illegal. Green light for cops in Arizona, visitors and everyone else beware.
 
 
+121 # feloneouscat 2012-09-10 10:02
"When you blame others, you give up your power to change," Hatch said that her mother used to say.

Funny, it sounds EXACTLY like Judge Hatch is blaming the victim. Perhaps she didn't heed her mother's advice. Or, just perhaps, she just doesn't think that being sexually assaulted is that big a deal.

She is part of the problem in our judicial system.

Falling back on "what her mother said" instead of legal precedent is indicative of someone with a lazy attitude towards the law.

What right does Hatch have to lecture the victim? She committed no crime. The judge in essence said "if you go to bars, it's sexual predator free time."

The judge should not only apologize, but resign.
 
 
+88 # BradFromSalem 2012-09-10 10:05
WTF!

Blame the victim, it is so Republican. The "judge" is in effect saying that when a woman gets accosted, its her fault for being there, and its likely she was wearing a short skirt as well. What drunk male could resist the urge to fondle her genitals, they are so within reach? Obviously, this woman wanted her genitals fondled. Last I checked when any person ventures into the public, they have a right to expect to be safe in their person and possessions. The person entrusted for administering that protection was the person responsible for violating that trust? And the victim share the blame.

WTF?!
 
 
+103 # pianosaurus rex 2012-09-10 10:29
Congratulations Hatch. You have just re-victimized the victim all over again along with marginalizing the rest of the female population.

Clearly an example of someone being raised to their level of incompetence, Hatch only responds to her level of intellect which in this case is completely non-existent.

Who cares what her mother used to say. Her mother did not sit on the bench.
 
 
+96 # Buddha 2012-09-10 10:36
I am guessing she is a conservative judge, married, and deeply religious. And therefore she believes that any single woman out in a bar is "asking for it". Disgusting. And hopefully she will lose in the next election when her opponent informs voters of this disgusting ruling.
 
 
+76 # Matt_Matt 2012-09-10 10:47
At risk of sounding racially and socially insensitive, it appears that Judge Hatch would like for women to be attired in burqas and to be accompanied by a male guardian whenever they dare to go outside the house.

Apparently this woman was "asking for it" by virtue of going to a bar. I have to believe that the judge is unlikely to convict a rapist whenever one comes up on charges before her.
 
 
+1 # X Dane 2012-09-13 18:13
Matt Matt.
OK you started it, and I will ask: What was the color of the woman? I would not at all be surprised if she is black. This judge is despicable, and she should not be anywhere near a court room, let alone be on the bench.
She must be impeached. Let's start a petition.
 
 
+74 # DaveM 2012-09-10 10:53
I suppose it didn't occur to the judge that if the assailant hadn't been there, nothing would have happened. The victim's presence or non-presence merely led to her becoming a victim. He would have found another had she not "been there".

The judge appears unaware that she was dealing with a convicted violent criminal (who I believe has had legal problems in the past).

Blaming the victim is absurd and the judge's actions in violation of any number of bar association ethical canons. She should not only be impeached, she should be disbarred. And perhaps required to spend some time dating Robb Gary Evans.
 
 
+69 # Mamazon 2012-09-10 11:03
Unreal -- Jan Brewer's ugly way of dealing with the world seems to be spreading -- I will avoid Arizona at all costs... That way I won't be there to be assaulted by police officers or arrested for not looking white enough.
 
 
+15 # Muzzi 2012-09-10 23:20
This is Jan Brewer's state! Can you imagime what will happen to women's rights when the Mormon church leader takes office? They will probably start Polygamy (sp?) again.
 
 
+42 # Texas Aggie 2012-09-10 11:23
So what the judge is saying is that if the victim had then punched her in the mouth, it would have been her own fault because she didn't have to say what she did.
 
 
+31 # Billy Bob 2012-09-10 12:42
No. It would have been the judge's fault for sitting on the bench that day.

Note, I'm only sarcastically arguing with you. You're absolutely right.
 
 
+71 # jackho 2012-09-10 11:23
A few years ago, at about 6:00pm, I was robbed in the parking lot at Walgreen's where I had gone to pick up a prescription. I'm a senior citizen. By the judge's logic, if I "wouldn't have been there" I wouldn't have been robbed? Am I,therefore, partly to blame for the robbery just for "being there" in the first place? How about the people in the Twin Towers? How about the young victims of pedaphile priests? They were in church, for heaven's sake. And how about young students, both male and female, victims of sexual abuse by their fathers? How can they avoid "being there" when the assailant is their own dad? Iknow, I know, the judge is talking about being in a bar. Someone should tell her that even in bars people can expect to be protected by existing laws, or does she think that females who go into bars should leave their rights as citizens at the door?
 
 
+57 # Citizen Mike 2012-09-10 11:25
AMAZING! THERE ARE ANTI-WOMEN WOMEN IN THE REPUBLICAN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE!
 
 
+26 # Rick Levy 2012-09-10 20:44
All the male-bashing in the world won't the change the fact that Hatch and Brewer are women in power who are using their power against other women.
 
 
+2 # cybersleuth58 2012-09-13 09:56
Quoting Rick Levy:
All the male-bashing in the world won't the change the fact that Hatch and Brewer are women in power who are using their power against other women.


Any criminal defense attorney worth his/her salt will tell you that when defending a man accused of rape you want to put as many women on the jury as possible. Women jurors tend to be much harder on a female complainant than men and a (see http://www.e-psychologist.org/index.iml?mdl=exam/show_article.mdl&Material_ID=72). There are a number of theories about why this happens; the most popular being that blaming the victim is a way of assuring themselves that the same thing could not happen to them. (The just world myth: bad things only happen to those looking for trouble).
 
 
-35 # Rick Levy 2012-09-10 20:55
At the risk of bringing down the wrath of the RSN forum on my head and a triple digit negative score, I have to say that the post headline "Judge Blames Woman Sexually Assaulted by Cop" is misleading. It made it sound as if the victim was raped instead of just groped.

No, I'm not a "rape apologist" nor am I defending the judge. The offending cop originally got the sentence he deserved. But feeling up someone and raping her while both forms of violating her person are not of the same magnitude.
 
 
+18 # NAVYVET 2012-09-11 05:44
Groping isn't rape but I've experienced both. Of course rape is worse--life-thr eatening and nightmarishly terrifying--but both are nothing but power trips on the part of an out-of-control perpetrator, humiliating and demeaning to the victim, who is taken by surprise and helpless. I'm a woman, and I can assure you that some drunk staggering up behind you and copping a feel is shocking and EMBARRASSING when it happens in a public place with people looking on. It happened to me during an Officers' Club party at Pearl Harbor. My date wasn't nearby, but others were. Some of the men who saw it--except the feel-snatcher, a drunken officer who was too soused--grinned and snickered, while their wives, other women officers and men friends of mine were indignant and got the guy out of there. I could have pressed charges but didn't since it would have prolonged the embarrassment. There was plenty of that anyway. The feeler and I were officers in the same department at CINCPACFLT. Fortunately he was due to be transfered, so I didn't have to keep avoiding him for long.

Sexual predation in the form of groping happens to men, too, just as rape does--but it's easy to guess that you've never been groped. Lucky you.
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-09-11 20:06
You're just describing in detail why women should be discouraged from joining the military or dating anyone in the military. Men join the military for the very power trip you were victimized by. I'm sure he got away with it many more times before and after you.

Our culture hero worships the military. History shows anybody who's treated like a hero will feel immune from any reprecussions for his own actions.

The same behavior is rampant in college and professional sports. It doesn't help when women give these guys so much attention. It's a sickness of American society and I'm going to make damn sure my daughters aren't caught up in media generated definitions of "manhood" and "womanhood".
 
 
0 # Jim Young 2012-09-14 00:47
I'm sorry I can't say that it never happens, but none of my friends in the military would tolerate such abuse of women. All took immediate and effective action on anything that we witnessed.

My Veteran Wife and Veteran Mother-in-Law never hesitated either, diving right in to stop stuff while the civilian "men" present just stood and watched.

I hope those you describe are as rare as I sensed in 20 years.
 
 
+11 # Anarchist 23 2012-09-11 20:16
I just love how men in this country presume they can tell women how to feel about the sexual assaults perpetrated on them by men. so nice to know that none of our feelings about the matter are genuine-we just need to cool out and wait for men to tell us.

Potting soil-just potting soil.
 
 
0 # X Dane 2012-09-13 18:40
Rick Levy.
Gee Rick I wonder how you would feel if a woman in a bar went up to you, unzipped your pants and groped you????

This is an attack on your person, and unbelievable humiliating. Even MORE so if it was witnessed by other guests, but infuriating under all circumstances.
I think only a man could make such a stupid comment as you just did
 
 
+49 # pagrad 2012-09-10 11:35
One's logic and one's concept should be tested. Any Arizonian may now accost Judge Jacqueline Hatch at anytime. After all, if she hadn't been there, she would not have been victimized. Go to it, gun-toting AZ.
 
 
-1 # Anarchist 23 2012-09-11 20:18
AQuoting pagrad:
One's logic and one's concept should be tested. Any Arizonian may now accost Judge Jacqueline Hatch at anytime. After all, if she hadn't been there, she would not have been victimized. Go to it, gun-toting AZ.

Ad that solves the problem how? We need an entirely new more equatable idea of relations between the sexes-our planet and human future depends on it.
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2012-09-12 09:05
You're kind of missing the point.
 
 
+43 # pernsey 2012-09-10 12:09
Just some more republican nonsense, imposed on this poor woman by a female judge. Victimizing the victim all over again, to cover up the real menace...the drunken cop who assaulted her. Its just your basic Fox news nonsensical garbage...what a load of horse manure this is.
 
 
+51 # NAVYVET 2012-09-10 12:24
Impeach her! IMMEDIATELY! My guess is that this judge is very, very mentally ill.
 
 
+39 # Harry_Spider 2012-09-10 13:22
The only thing conservatives understand is money; the only way to change anything is to put an economic "incentive" into the equation. So here's how to fix this:

Since this idiot judge had the nerve to blather: "If you wouldn't have been there that night, none of this would have happened to you," ... then the women of Arizona should stand together and say "You're right, we agree, bars ARE dangerous places, especially when we know our rights are not protected by courts such as those run by Ms. Hatch. In other words, if YOU weren't wearing that robe, we wouldn't be getting f**ked all over again... So from here on, all women will boycott all bars; there won't be a single (or married) female in ANY bar, until Ms. Hatch is removed from the bench..."

See how long it takes the merchants to call for her impeachment...
 
 
+30 # Davethinks 2012-09-10 13:25
What a disgusting hag this "judge" is, but then, she was appointed by another hag, Jan Brewer. What a strange flock of birds! Would the victim of a hit and run be at fault for being in a crosswalk as some drunk sped down a street? Arizona seems to be collecting weird characters. I hope there are still a lot of decent people there.
 
 
-40 # brux 2012-09-10 16:11
> What a disgusting hag this "judge" is,

What a disgusting comment that was in disgusting language - pointlessly disgusting ... why can't you reply without namecalling and express your point calmly ... what are you, "disgusting" or something ?
 
 
-65 # brux 2012-09-10 16:14
seriously, the judge injecting her opinion in this case does not change anything. i think the judge probably had sized up the plaintiff and found her in some way provocative ... but in a way that was not illegal, so she gave her some personal advice.

you really fly off the handle or maybe you purposefully like to provoke people?
 
 
+10 # Anarchist 23 2012-09-11 20:21
'And found her in some way provocative' SOS from the patriarchal establishment. Get a clue boys-this world would be a whole lot better for all with women treated as equals worthy of respect and respected.
 
 
-1 # brux 2012-09-12 22:18
There is nothing inconsistent with what I said and what you said.

I did not mention that I think the cop should have the book thrown at him though.
 
 
+34 # janie1893 2012-09-10 13:32
I wonder if this judge realizes she herself has taken the 'power' away from women by her very statement?
 
 
+28 # Archie1954 2012-09-10 13:32
Boy there are really weird people on the bench in the hinterlands of the US.
 
 
+14 # Nominae 2012-09-10 18:16
@ ArchieQuoting Archie1954:
Boy there are really weird people on the bench in the hinterlands of the US.


Yeah ...... the hinterlands... quite unlike those paragons of justice and personal role models for every judge
that are now seated on the Supreme Court of The United States of America in full and thoroughly embarrassing view of the *entire* world.

You are not wrong, but we can all benefit by broadening our views a bit.
 
 
+27 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2012-09-10 13:42
No, not mentally ill; JUST PLAIN EVIL!!! What's to be expected from a Jan Brewer spawn? I said I would never visit Arizona again; I will DOUBLE DOWN on that promise and try to avoid FLYING OVER THE AIRSPACE of that stste as well!
 
 
+27 # Phlippinout 2012-09-10 14:52
That Jan Brewer is a moron, she has nothing intelligent to say and appoints stupid judges that continue to leave a negative image of Arizona.
 
 
+26 # Regina 2012-09-10 15:41
This judge, appointed by the weirdo AZ governor, Jan Brewer (R), appears to know what her job depends on -- toeing the mark on all the Republican "attitudes" that define the party line. That includes their War on Women.
 
 
-11 # brux 2012-09-10 16:09
what is the message that this comment transmits ... weird !

implicitly is she saying that society is too big and some places are too dangerous and cannot be policed or controlled by civilized people ?
 
 
+22 # oldfella 2012-09-10 17:11
Someone already beat me to it, but it does almost seem like the victim should have worn a burqua to the courtroom. BTW does the good judge drive a car? If it gets stolen, she was asking for it - serves her right for parking it at the grocery store when shopping. Does the judge have a daughter? Would she act the same if her daughter were assaulted in such a manner? Anyway, no wonder most people consider our justice system to be such a joke. Too bad the joke is on all of us.
 
 
+18 # deadhead69 2012-09-10 21:21
Sounds like she and Akin would be the next Republican "dream team".
 
 
+20 # karlarove 2012-09-10 21:33
When you blame others, you give up your power to change," Hatch said that her mother used to say. ????? So, instead of blaming the rapist, blame the woman for being in the bar?? "If you wouldn't have been there that night, none of this would have happened to you," Hatch said. Well then, if the rapist hadn't been in the bar, none of this would have happened either. This is extremely crazy logic. And we pay her to be a judge. She isn't practicing law, she is preaching her personal opinion.
 
 
+7 # engelbach 2012-09-11 01:53
So many people wonder why a woman would vote for the anti-women GOP.

This confused, incompetent, stupid judge is just such a woman.

Are such women self-hating?
 
 
+10 # Madrona 2012-09-11 12:46
PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION. It asks the judge to step down:

http://www.change.org/petitions/arizona-supreme-court-judge-jacqueline-hatch-should-step-down-for-unjust-sex-abuse-case
 
 
+7 # Madrona 2012-09-11 12:49
The petition asking the "judge" to step down was well over 10,000 signatures, so she apologize. Think she means it? Even though the "judge" has apologized but the laughably light sentence she imposed on the police officer cannot be changed. She should still be impeached!

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/09/10/arizona-judge-jacqueline-hatch-apologizes-for-chiding-sex-abuse/
 
 
+8 # Madrona 2012-09-11 13:05
The judge apologized after a local talk show host, Mitch, of the Mitch and Joe show on The Big Talker Radio, 105.1, a right-wing station, admonished the judge for her statement to the victim. I did not hear the radio show, so I do not know if Mitch also admonisted her for the laughably light sentence the judge gave to the police officer. I emailed Mitch to thank him for bringing up the topic on-air, and to ask if he thought the judge would give more appropriate sentences from now on.
 
 
+13 # pianosaurus rex 2012-09-11 13:24
 
 
+8 # Billy Bob 2012-09-11 20:07
I also guess anyone that cops runs over while drunk driving shouldn't have been walking on the sidewalk.
 
 
+4 # dkonstruction 2012-09-11 13:32
I wonder if the judge would have told the cop that "If you wouldn't have been there that night, none of this would have happened to you" after she tasered him in the balls in response to his assaulting her?
 
 
+10 # Shanti 2012-09-11 15:10
Years ago a group was talking about racism in Arkansas. A black member said that when she went through Arkansas, "I don't even stop to pee." That now seems appropriate for Arizona.
 
 
+11 # lourdmar 2012-09-11 16:29
So we have an illiterate judge "If you wouldn't have been there that night,...' making a vicious comment promoting the abuse of women! Fine state Arizona, rapidly becoming a monument to evil and stupidity!
By the way it's either: "if you hadn't been there" or "Had you not been there". How did she get through law school? Or grammar school for that matter.
 
 
+5 # Norgereader 2012-09-12 10:44
I am not sure when I last laughed so hard.
In the early 80s while spending 6 years in the middle east I happened to have a traffic accident in Jeddah SA. Peuguot taxi ran into back of Chevy truck at traffic light. Extensive damage. Religious police decided I was to blame and the costs were extensive.
Reason for my being to blame was because "had I not been in the country" the taxi could not have hit me. Seems maybe Arizona is going the way of Saudi Arabia.
 
 
+4 # kalpal 2012-09-12 15:08
Arizona used to be where you went to get well if you were ill. Now it's where you go to finish becoming insane.
 
 
0 # rebelgroove 2012-09-13 10:33
In Arizona, it pays to be stupid .. you get elected to pubic office.

For this judge (what a mis-use of the title) to blame the woman for 'being in the bar' just proves my point ...

America has become a joke of itself ...
 
 
+1 # dick 2012-09-13 10:33
Left brain, right brain, LAME brain. A lot of this stems from jealousy. The judge probably wishes she had the personal freedom of the woman at the bar. IF I can't, you can't. If I can't have an abortion, you can't. If I can't take the slim risk of pregnancy, you can't. If I can't enjoy sexual freedom, noBODY
else can, either, no women, that is.
 
 
+2 # rebelgroove 2012-09-13 10:36
Jacqueline Hatch, you are a disgrace to womanhood ... I pray your karma catches you when you least expect it ...
 

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